I know this room is meant to symbolize the emptiness of her life, but damn! She’d freeze to death in there. Thin dress, massive windows, no fire that I can see, all marble floors.
Not really, both of them present Russia in Pushkin's mind. Tatiana is the real Russia, cold and beautiful, honorable and with dignity, true to itself...Onegin is the Russia that Pushkin despised, taking every nonsense from the West, speaking French instead of Russian, being fashionable, corrupt....and Onegin is a lesser man, who is bored of everything, and just looks for the new thrill...
@@crazymelomanka I agree. But she also has a clear mind and she understands that her life would be even more empty and hollow if she betrays her true nature, being loyal and faithful. And also she is not a fool, she knows that he wants her to be his mistress, it would be such a boost to his ego to have an affair with a respected woman, married to a prince who was very frequent guest at the Russian court and a czar favoured him because of his accomplishments at the battlefield. She knows that if she remained a spinster and still living in a country he would not want her. He only remembered her when she saw her at the party. He would quickly grew tired of her and left her if she agreed to be his mistress, and she would be left with nothing.
@@jelena7440 of course with age we understand these simple things, that nothing in this life is sugar coated, and should be viewed critically. after many years i read the book again and realized just about the same things that you just pointed out. of course we know that onegin is not the choice for her, and pushkin is very ironical about him) she made the wise choice in the end by making him go.
It's a very beautiful looking film - and Fiennes inhabits the character well, I can see his appeal for her, but despite Liv Tyler's efforts, I 'just feel your left not really understanding in the story telling, why on earth she loves him. He's a cynical, bored character not much about him. Not even that handsome. They don't know each other well. I don't get the connection between them, and why this young girl loves him so much. It's seem he's just the first man, she meets that isn't old, or a relation.
You know, it is strange. There is an opinion the last scene is his dream. Because he couldn't have entered the house of a general and meet no servants. At least if a servant had tried to stop him, but nobody was there. Looks like a dream, she is not dressed (by the standards of the 19th century and in the book it is said not dressed properly for meeting guests), all white, heavenly white. Had her husband entered the room, that would mean a duel. In reality she may have stopped loving him, but we don't know. It doesn't mean she loved her husband, very likely she didn't. Many people didn't love each other, marriage wasn't about romance. I am not sure but her coldness could either serve as not giving any hope or it was a deliberate defence of her own feelings. As to why she could possible love him, he is not the stupidest person in the world, maybe by comparison she didn't meet anyone more interesting, but again it should have changed in St. Petersburg. There were many bright people, she should have noticed Onegin was not that special. Not knowing Onegin well is probably his only advantage, she may fill the void with her imagination. Perhaps through Tatiana the author shows his disillusionment with the Byronic hero but not with Byron (who wasn't idle), just the style of the hero Byron created and made fashionable. There are plenty of ironic remarks in the book about Onegin's virtues and education.
he is her first love, she was young and inexperienced, and she idolized him so much, in real life i don't think they would make a good couple, and in the book there is a lot of irony about his character and sympathy for Tatiana.
That's a very interesting point of view, that its meant to be a dream or fantasy from Onegin's imagination..and the disillusionment of the Byronic figure.
Its like a russian version of the Age of the innocence... Very Michelle Pfeiffer daniel day lewis scene in the age of the innocence 93 its the end of the affair
Какой же Онегин самовлюбленный, эгоистичный, плоский человек, не представляющий из себя ничего... Бедная Татьяна.. Всегда думаю о том, что он не был достоин и капли ее любви...
She's supposed to represent Imperial Russia, cold, distant, stoic, and fearless...Onegin was corrupted Russia that took everything from the West, speaking French, low morals, embracing even fashion...Pushkin thought of them as two different worlds...and she rejects him in the end because he would ruin her.
Lord voldemort and arwen undomiel, hmmm
Heartbreaking scene .You are too late , too late ...
It's breaking my heart already too, for the one who turned away from me. I know he will come back, but would I be still waiting for him? IDK.
better for her this way.
So underrated film
One of my favourite movies
I know nothing about this film and have only watched this scene but I’m in tears! What is wrong with me?!!!
I know this room is meant to symbolize the emptiness of her life, but damn! She’d freeze to death in there. Thin dress, massive windows, no fire that I can see, all marble floors.
Heather Howard 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I never thought about it but you right
Not really, both of them present Russia in Pushkin's mind. Tatiana is the real Russia, cold and beautiful, honorable and with dignity, true to itself...Onegin is the Russia that Pushkin despised, taking every nonsense from the West, speaking French instead of Russian, being fashionable, corrupt....and Onegin is a lesser man, who is bored of everything, and just looks for the new thrill...
@@jelena7440 but she is also talking about how hollow and cold her life is, and this room perfectly resembles her state of mind.
@@crazymelomanka I agree. But she also has a clear mind and she understands that her life would be even more empty and hollow if she betrays her true nature, being loyal and faithful. And also she is not a fool, she knows that he wants her to be his mistress, it would be such a boost to his ego to have an affair with a respected woman, married to a prince who was very frequent guest at the Russian court and a czar favoured him because of his accomplishments at the battlefield. She knows that if she remained a spinster and still living in a country he would not want her. He only remembered her when she saw her at the party. He would quickly grew tired of her and left her if she agreed to be his mistress, and she would be left with nothing.
@@jelena7440 of course with age we understand these simple things, that nothing in this life is sugar coated, and should be viewed critically. after many years i read the book again and realized just about the same things that you just pointed out. of course we know that onegin is not the choice for her, and pushkin is very ironical about him) she made the wise choice in the end by making him go.
Люблю этот фильм, спасибо
where is the good taste in movies nowadays? this is a masterpiece, my favorite movie ever
Great Pushkin
It's a very beautiful looking film - and Fiennes inhabits the character well, I can see his appeal for her, but despite Liv Tyler's efforts, I 'just feel your left not really understanding in the story telling, why on earth she loves him. He's a cynical, bored character not much about him. Not even that handsome. They don't know each other well. I don't get the connection between them, and why this young girl loves him so much. It's seem he's just the first man, she meets that isn't old, or a relation.
You know, it is strange. There is an opinion the last scene is his dream. Because he couldn't have entered the house of a general and meet no servants. At least if a servant had tried to stop him, but nobody was there. Looks like a dream, she is not dressed (by the standards of the 19th century and in the book it is said not dressed properly for meeting guests), all white, heavenly white. Had her husband entered the room, that would mean a duel. In reality she may have stopped loving him, but we don't know. It doesn't mean she loved her husband, very likely she didn't. Many people didn't love each other, marriage wasn't about romance. I am not sure but her coldness could either serve as not giving any hope or it was a deliberate defence of her own feelings. As to why she could possible love him, he is not the stupidest person in the world, maybe by comparison she didn't meet anyone more interesting, but again it should have changed in St. Petersburg. There were many bright people, she should have noticed Onegin was not that special. Not knowing Onegin well is probably his only advantage, she may fill the void with her imagination. Perhaps through Tatiana the author shows his disillusionment with the Byronic hero but not with Byron (who wasn't idle), just the style of the hero Byron created and made fashionable. There are plenty of ironic remarks in the book about Onegin's virtues and education.
he is her first love, she was young and inexperienced, and she idolized him so much, in real life i don't think they would make a good couple, and in the book there is a lot of irony about his character and sympathy for Tatiana.
That's a very interesting point of view, that its meant to be a dream or fantasy from Onegin's imagination..and the disillusionment of the Byronic figure.
Tell me that you love me
Lie to me❤😥
Its like a russian version of the Age of the innocence... Very Michelle Pfeiffer daniel day lewis scene in the age of the innocence 93 its the end of the affair
Except Onegin was written before The age of innocence.
Straziante!!!!!!
Beautiful movie. Love it so much.
I love this movie
Какой же Онегин самовлюбленный, эгоистичный, плоский человек, не представляющий из себя ничего... Бедная Татьяна.. Всегда думаю о том, что он не был достоин и капли ее любви...
Yes, he wants to drag her down on his level.
@@jelena7440 exactly! he tried to present the situation as if he was above her... hope u ll understand me, bad eng, my apologies
my gosh this movie
¡Estas escenas son de amantes latinos, pero Ralph tiene la pasión latina y Liv aún es rígida!
She's supposed to represent Imperial Russia, cold, distant, stoic, and fearless...Onegin was corrupted Russia that took everything from the West, speaking French, low morals, embracing even fashion...Pushkin thought of them as two different worlds...and she rejects him in the end because he would ruin her.
@@jelena7440 she rejected him because she was married.
@@DropletFY exactly. He would leave her after the initial thrill fades away. Thsn what would become of her.